diff --git a/src/lib/time/lumitime.cpp b/src/lib/time/lumitime.cpp
index c1837667b..d2daba3c2 100644
--- a/src/lib/time/lumitime.cpp
+++ b/src/lib/time/lumitime.cpp
@@ -94,6 +94,11 @@ namespace time {
     return string (lumiera_tmpbuf_print_time (t_));
   }
   
+  TimeVar::operator string()  const
+  {
+    return string (lumiera_tmpbuf_print_time (t_));
+  }
+  
   
   
 }} // namespace lib::Time
diff --git a/src/lib/time/quantiser.cpp b/src/lib/time/quantiser.cpp
index c4e12b274..cf384822b 100644
--- a/src/lib/time/quantiser.cpp
+++ b/src/lib/time/quantiser.cpp
@@ -23,6 +23,7 @@
 
 #include "lib/time/quantiser.hpp"
 #include "lib/time/timevalue.hpp"
+#include "lib/time/timequant.hpp"
 
 using std::string;
 
@@ -32,6 +33,24 @@ namespace time {
   
   
   /** */
+  QuTime::QuTime (TimeValue raw, Symbol gridID)
+    : Time(raw)          /////////////////////////////////////////////////TODO fetch quantiser
+    { }
+  
+  
+  /** */
+  QuTime::QuTime (TimeValue raw, Quantiser const& quantisation_to_use)
+    : Time(raw)          /////////////////////////////////////////////////TODO fetch quantiser
+    { }
+  
+  
+  
+  /** */
+  FixedFrameQuantiser::FixedFrameQuantiser (FSecs frames_per_second)
+    : Quantiser()        /////////////////////////////////////////////////TODO we ought to do something
+    { }
+
+  
   
   
   
diff --git a/src/lib/time/timecode.cpp b/src/lib/time/timecode.cpp
index 24c00de5b..3bb80e697 100644
--- a/src/lib/time/timecode.cpp
+++ b/src/lib/time/timecode.cpp
@@ -23,9 +23,15 @@
 
 #include "lib/lumitime.hpp"
 #include "lib/time/timecode.hpp"
+#include "lib/time/timevalue.hpp"
 #include "lib/time/timequant.hpp"
 #include "lib/time/formats.hpp"
 
+extern "C" {
+#include "lib/time.h"
+}
+
+
 using std::string;
 
 
@@ -38,6 +44,90 @@ namespace time {
   
   
   /** */
+  FrameNr::FrameNr (QuTime const& quantisedTime)
+    : FACTOR_TODO (1,25)
+    , nr_(TimeVar(quantisedTime) / (25*GAVL_TIME_SCALE))
+    { }                                /////////////////////////////TODO temporary bullshit (of course that is the job of the quantiser)
+  
+  
+  /** */
+  SmpteTC::SmpteTC (QuTime const& quantisedTime)
+    : tpoint_(quantisedTime)           /////////////////////////////TODO eternal bullshit
+    { }
+  
+  
+  /** */
+  HmsTC::HmsTC (QuTime const& quantisedTime)
+    : tpoint_(quantisedTime)           /////////////////////////////TODO bullshit
+    { }
+  
+  
+  /** */
+  Secs::Secs (QuTime const& quantisedTime)
+    : sec_(TimeVar(quantisedTime) / GAVL_TIME_SCALE)   /////////////TODO bullshit
+    { }
+  
+  
+  
+  /** */
+  int
+  SmpteTC::getSecs() const
+  {
+    return lumiera_time_seconds (tpoint_);
+  }
+  
+  /** */
+  int
+  SmpteTC::getMins() const 
+  {
+    return lumiera_time_minutes (tpoint_);
+  }
+  
+  /** */
+  int
+  SmpteTC::getHours() const 
+  {
+    return lumiera_time_hours (tpoint_);
+  }
+  
+  /** */
+  int
+  SmpteTC::getFrames() const
+  {
+    UNIMPLEMENTED ("Frame-Quantisation");
+  }
+  
+  /** */
+  int
+  HmsTC::getSecs() const
+  {
+    return lumiera_time_seconds (tpoint_);
+  }
+  
+  /** */
+  int
+  HmsTC::getMins() const 
+  {
+    return lumiera_time_minutes (tpoint_);
+  }
+  
+  /** */
+  int
+  HmsTC::getHours() const 
+  {
+    return lumiera_time_hours (tpoint_);
+  }
+  
+  /** */
+  double
+  HmsTC::getMillis() const
+  {
+    TODO ("Frame-Quantisation");
+    return lumiera_time_millis (tpoint_);
+  }
+  
+  /** */
+
   
   
   
diff --git a/src/lib/time/timecode.hpp b/src/lib/time/timecode.hpp
index 6cc526d79..05b5fb3ff 100644
--- a/src/lib/time/timecode.hpp
+++ b/src/lib/time/timecode.hpp
@@ -26,9 +26,11 @@
 
 #include "lib/time/timevalue.hpp"
 #include "lib/time/formats.hpp"
+#include "lib/symbol.hpp"
 
 //#include <iostream>
 //#include <boost/operators.hpp>
+#include <boost/lexical_cast.hpp> ///////////////TODO
 #include <string>
 
 
@@ -36,6 +38,8 @@ namespace lib {
 namespace time {
   
   using std::string;
+  using lib::Literal;
+  using boost::lexical_cast; /////////TODO
   
   
   /**
@@ -50,13 +54,13 @@ namespace time {
       virtual ~TCode();
       
       operator string()  const { return show(); }
-      string describe()  const { return tcID(); }
-      Time   getTime()   const { return Time(calc()); }
+      string describe()  const { return string(tcID()); }
+      Time   getTime()   const { return Time(value()); }
       
     protected:
       virtual string show()     const   =0;
-      virtual string tcID()     const   =0;
-      virtual TimeValue calc()  const   =0;
+      virtual Literal tcID()    const   =0;
+      virtual TimeValue value() const   =0;
     };
   
   
@@ -72,15 +76,19 @@ namespace time {
   class FrameNr
     : public TCode
     {
-        
-      virtual string show()     const ;
-      virtual string tcID()     const ;
-      virtual TimeValue calc()  const ;
+      FSecs FACTOR_TODO;              /////////////////////////////TODO temporary bullshit (of course that is the job of the quantiser)
+      
+      long nr_;
+      
+      
+      string show()     const { return lexical_cast<string>(nr_)+"fr"; }
+      Literal tcID()    const { return "Frame-count"; } 
+      TimeValue value() const { return Time(FACTOR_TODO * nr_); }
       
     public:
-      FrameNr (QuTime const& quantisedTime);
+      FrameNr (QuTime const& quantisedTime); 
       
-      operator long()  const;
+      operator long()   const { return nr_; }  
     };
   
   
@@ -91,10 +99,11 @@ namespace time {
   class SmpteTC
     : public TCode
     {
-      
-      virtual string show()     const ;
-      virtual string tcID()     const ;
-      virtual TimeValue calc()  const ;
+      TimeVar tpoint_;
+        
+      virtual string show()     const { return string(tpoint_); }
+      virtual Literal tcID()    const { return "SMPTE"; }
+      virtual TimeValue value() const { return tpoint_; }
       
     public:
       SmpteTC (QuTime const& quantisedTime);
@@ -113,10 +122,11 @@ namespace time {
   class HmsTC
     : public TCode
     {
+      TimeVar tpoint_;
       
-      virtual string show()     const ;
-      virtual string tcID()     const ;
-      virtual TimeValue calc()  const ;
+      virtual string show()     const { return string(tpoint_); }
+      virtual Literal tcID()    const { return "Timecode"; }        
+      virtual TimeValue value() const { return tpoint_; }        
       
     public:
       HmsTC (QuTime const& quantisedTime);
@@ -135,10 +145,11 @@ namespace time {
   class Secs
     : public TCode
     {
+      FSecs sec_;
       
-      virtual string show()     const ;
-      virtual string tcID()     const ;
-      virtual TimeValue calc()  const ;
+      virtual string show()     const { return string(Time(sec_)); }
+      virtual Literal tcID()    const { return "Seconds"; }
+      virtual TimeValue value() const { return Time(sec_); }
       
     public:
       Secs (QuTime const& quantisedTime);
diff --git a/src/lib/time/timequant.hpp b/src/lib/time/timequant.hpp
index 25cd9b40f..89c5db63f 100644
--- a/src/lib/time/timequant.hpp
+++ b/src/lib/time/timequant.hpp
@@ -62,5 +62,23 @@ namespace time {
   
   
   
+  /* == implementation == */
+  template<class FMT>
+  bool
+  QuTime::supports()  const
+  {
+    return false;   ////////////////TODO;
+  }
+  
+  
+  template<class FMT>
+  typename format::Traits<FMT>::TimeCode
+  QuTime::formatAs()  const
+  {
+    typedef typename format::Traits<FMT>::TimeCode TimeCode; 
+    return TimeCode(*this);
+  }
+  
+  
 }} // lib::time
 #endif
diff --git a/src/lib/time/timevalue.hpp b/src/lib/time/timevalue.hpp
index 674952ace..8fee6aca6 100644
--- a/src/lib/time/timevalue.hpp
+++ b/src/lib/time/timevalue.hpp
@@ -107,7 +107,7 @@ namespace time {
       > >
     {
     public:
-      TimeVar (TimeValue time = TimeValue())
+      TimeVar (TimeValue const& time = TimeValue())
         : TimeValue(time)
         { }
       
@@ -123,6 +123,8 @@ namespace time {
           return *this;
         }
       
+      /** @internal diagnostics */
+      operator std::string ()  const;
       
       // Supporting mixing with plain long int arithmetics
       operator gavl_time_t ()  const { return t_; }